tina ([info]deitytrock22) wrote in [info]bodyart,
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just some thoughts

some thoughts about tribal tattoos that i posted on some forum site that i was on.

that there were not any posts in here. oddly enough i was thinking about tattoos and meandered into here. so here i am and here are my thoughts.

tribal tattoos... a lot of people have them. please keep in mind that i am not trying to devalue your tattoo if you have a tribal one. i am just expressing an opinion. i am not intentionally trying to make anyone feel bad.

back to tribal tattoos. last semester i wrote my english final on tattoos and i learned a lot about the history of tattooing. BME states that a tribal tattoo is "a style of tattoo work that exploded in popularity in the United States and Europe in the early 1990's and which is largely inspired by the traditional tattoo art of indigenous Pacific Islander cultures such as the Dyak of Borneo, and native Hawaiian, Samoan and Polynesian tattooing." (p.s. visit the site if you never have. it's very informative. http://www.bmezine.com/ )

tribal tattoos started as as something with so much meaning. the tattoos went beyond body decoration and were a part of the culture of those people. the areas that modern day tattooing came are Tahiti, Borneo, South America, Hawaii and many of the Pacific Islands, Africa, and Australia. one was tattoo/modified for many different reasons. in some African tribes boys were branded up their backs and on their faces as a rite of passage into manhood. women were branded on their stomachs once they reached their second trimester while pregnant. this was thought to being good health to the baby and the mother. Polynesian tattoos were used to show status in hierarchy society. no man that was inkless in a Samoan tribe could ever marry.

even the process of getting these modifications was more involved. it was seen as a big part of life, like marriage or childbirth or even death. some cultures would have the participant fast for days before the endeavor. in some areas the entire tribe would celebrate for days. there was so much depth and meaning behind them.

finally i get to my point: do you think that we, as a society, have taken away some of the meaning from tribal tattoos by "modernizing" them? post a response

tina

p.s.- yet again i am not trying to piss off anyone. infact if you have tribal tattoos, i want to hear your opinion even more.

p.s.s- sorry about how unorganized this is. i am not the best person at organizing my thoughts, which is probably why i got a B- on that term paper.

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[info]jupiter__crash

July 22 2005, 16:47:57 UTC 6 years ago

we as a society have so badly raped every ounce of meaning when it comes to basically anything.

it was a good read.

[info]obvious

July 22 2005, 17:40:29 UTC 6 years ago

I think it's all a matter of opinion. I don't have tribal work myself, but I do have a lot of ink. I sorta of see what you're getting at, and have the same feelings about all tattoos. Not to offend anyone, but I see a huge difference between someone who has a rose on their ankle and another who has a 30 hour full-back piece. And yet that person with the rose on their ankle feels as if they've tapped into something big and powerful. I'm of the firm belief that you do not get the full experience of tattooing when you're only in the chair for 30 minutes to an hour. As I'm nearing 15 hours of work, I'm constantly finding new things about myself each time I take a seat. I think ritual tattooing brought about similar mental journeys, and that's what mattered. Not so much the designs, but the endurance and the act itself.

[info]screaminwords

July 22 2005, 18:39:49 UTC 6 years ago

Most people in the west that have tribal tattoos probably don’t even know the true meaning behind them. And really they just think it looks “cool.” So to answer the question, yes we have taken away – not some, but all the meaning from tribal tattoos by “modernizing’ them. Because it wasn’t just the body art itself afterwards, it was the ritual process also.

Get a tattoo because it means something deep to you; don’t get a tattoo because you think it looks ‘cool.’ I’m sure there are some people with tribal that have reasoning behind it, but I have yet to meet them.

[info]sharselune

July 22 2005, 22:16:47 UTC 6 years ago

But who's to say that those who get tribal tattoos who aren't part of that tribe are simply getting it because it looks cool? I agree with [info]obvious above who said that the tattoo is more the experience than the design. I don't think my getting a "tribal" tattoo takes away from anyone else's "real" tattoos.

I guess what I mean is that the tribes who got the tattoos didn't do it for the design, they did it for the physical and spiritual experience, so the fact that Western culture now has popularized the designs themselves and has made them ubiquitous doesn't take away from the ritual that the tribes do.

[info]hecticred

July 31 2005, 10:28:03 UTC 6 years ago

Just becasue something is beautiful doesn't mean it is worth less than something that is meaningful. I don't agree with you taht you should only get a tattoo if it means something to you. If you liek the way it looks, that is reason enough.

[info]peregrin8

July 22 2005, 19:03:15 UTC 6 years ago

honestly, just b/c it's a cultural tradition does not mean that it's a great huge meaningful experience for every single tribal person who has a tribal tattoo. why do we assume that if it's non-Western or non-"modern" then there wasn't anyone reluctantly fidgeting through the experience like I used to do at church?

[info]deitytrock22

July 24 2005, 22:30:29 UTC 6 years ago

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good point. i am actually glad that you brought that up. i never really took that perspective into account. silly me. thanks.

tina

[info]morganics

July 25 2005, 00:02:33 UTC 6 years ago

I have a small tribal tattoo. I'm not a native of the style but got it because of the meaning it held for me AND for the people it blongs to. I thought about getting it done in a traditional way but felt that while on holidays it was too time and money consuming. I did however, seek out an artist who knew the meaning and understood why I wanted it on me.

My point is that it's different for everyone. I knew what I wanted and the meaning of it. For some, it's about how it looks.

Oh, and just to put it in context, it's a small Koru on my inner elbow. It's a Maroi tribal sybol that represents new life and new beginings.
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